why does everybody sound like everybody?

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:29 am

How come all bands that are now popular, sound very similar?
Bands like the Kaiser Chiefs, Bloc Party, The Future heads!!!
Is their anybody out-there that is even slightly different if there is let me know please!
I am in need of some audio stimulation. Cheers bye bye

PS Nothing to heavy as my Brain Has Already Melted

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:00 am

have a listen to hanney on the unsigned band web they are nothing like anyone going about very different and very good. they have no influences that stick out and none of there songs sounds directly like anything youve heard before unlike the bands that you mentioned that just play all the same shit like kaiser Evil or Very Mad

cheifs

futureheads Evil or Very Mad

bloc party Evil or Very Mad

they all are just music recyclers. they take old songs and through them in the recycle bin then churn out there so called new versions. the word originality has gone completely out of the window that is until hanney came Wink

www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/hanney Shocked

ubw newbie Joined: Jul 21, 2005 Posts: 1

my victoria is a band from nyc...their singer is a firecracker on stage...influences are kind of all over the place, slightly angular, with good pop sensibilities...

http://www.myvictoria.net/music.html

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:05 pm

Check out `Terra Copernica` on the UBW.

This is the link to take you to their page.

http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/bands/3467/

they are a little different, hope you enjoy.

I would also like to say that I am tired of seeing Keane, Kaiser Chiefs et all on British Television.

Jo F*@King Whiley has a lot to answer for. There is a world of music out their, old and new, good or bad, why do we have to be bombarded with and force fed on Radio 1 and other stations with the same bloody songs over and over again?

There was an advert on the telly recently for the Kaiser chiefs album, and I swear, the clips of the individual songs they played could all have come from the same song. Ive only got this to say about them: `Everyday I love you less and less`

DAGON.

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:45 pm

actually I quite like `I predict a riot`

Remember the early nineties?

Everyone wanted to be the Stone Roses.

Remember the Mid Nineties?

Everyone wanted to be Oasis.

What do the above bands have in common?

Neither of them made anything of themselves outside the UK.

Th eUK is very insular when it comes to music, I like a lot of stuff that comes from the States, but unfortunately, a lot of it doesnt get much attention over here.

I still blame radio 1. I heard some of it today (Jo Whiley unfortunately). What a load of crap.

She was also one of the people who were inexplicably involved with the Live8 coverage in the UK.

Every time she was asked anything in relation to whether she liked any of the old acts (Floyd, Who etc) all she could do was go `Yeah, Ok, but what about the Kaiser Chiefs et all. The kaiser chiefs may be ok, but up against the Floyd, I dont think so. Everyone got something out of that day musically and politically. I still feel sick when I remember how the real music fans were penned way back from the stage in favour of the golden ticket brigade. And Bonos mid set rant. I can accept the fact that the guy may just care about what he is saying, but Bono, for gods sake, take of the stupid shades, drop the stupid trans-atlantic accent, and talk to us as if we are actually here and your not staring into a mirror.

Anyway, im digressing somewhat.

Not everythng sounds the same, you just need to look a little harder now adays to find a little originality within the mainstream.

I can se a future now where the major labels will not be the all conquering be all and end all of music. This site is proof of that. The majors are starting to be a little scared that they are losing their grip, thus their hoovering up of all the download sites, and their limiting of cd output to music shops, and the subsequent closure of music shops in the UK.

Is it the same elsewhere?

I was in Berlin recently, and found that they have very healthy music shops there.

I remember when we had the same.

All of my local shops are gone, I now have to resort purely to internet buying.
And for something original? Theres always the UBW.

Very Happy

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:49 am

What you have to bear in mind is that the UK is still under the impression that it has the monopoly on popular music, but this is based on what the scene was like twenty, thirty or even forty years ago - The UK produced The Beatles, The Stones, Led Zeppelin, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath all of these massively influential bands who could all at some point have done a World Tour and filled every venue. Bands like the Kaiser Chiefs would have trouble filling a small bar outside of the UK, but the sense of national self-importance promoted by magazines such as the NME would have us believe otherwise. The whole british rock/indie scene at the moment is based on this sad little cornerstone of desperately trying to find the 'next best thing', so much so that every time a new band comes out, that's what it gets labelled, and then flops when it can't possibly live up to the expectation of having to be the new Fab Four.

The climate is so different now. Even Oasis got laughed out of the US, because as much as some people would love to believe that they're a groudbreaking, amazingly infleuntial band, they're just a couple of foul-mouthed tossers from Manchester who wish they were the Beatles.

And then there's of course Britain's insistence that they must completely disregard the one area of music that might enable it to get back its status as World-dominant musical power. The richness of quality of British metal bands right now is such that it could totally sweep all this American post-grunge dirge out of the charts. Do people not see that the UK is so starved for metal that every time Iron Maiden release even a rubbish single it goes straight to the Top 5? Is that not a good indication? But noooo, the industry just keeps churning these retro-indie acts, in the hopes that any of this jangly crap will impress someone, and the hundreds of thousands of British metal fans who would thrive in a good metal scene have to make do with a core diet of foreign imports.

Cos metal's SO uncool.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:14 am

I agree with Burn entirely.

Metal is a lost cause in the UK, but not because we dont want it, we are just restricted by the lack of support that the genre gets in the `Popular` press.

Take for example, that stupid cow in the Sun newspaper who runs the Bizarre column. She would have you believe that the be all and end all of music revolves around people like Pete Docherty, whom I can only see as being a sad Junkie whose only claim to fame really is being a sad Junkie. I saw his former band the Libertines at T in the park one year, and all they confirmed to me was that in order to be credited as being talented, all you need to do is be incredibly crap on stage.

I have seen some acts over the years who may release an ok record, but when it comes time for them to play it on stage, you see just how much effort went into the studio production to make them sound any good in the first place. I liked the Vex Red album a few years ago, but what happened to them? It seems they didnt get the string of hit singles that the industry here craves, along with other acts.

I feel also that the closure of many music stores and the limiting of catalogues of those that remain open also contributes to it as only the heavily promoted chart stuff gets into the shops now. The ability to browse and find hidden gems for me has been cut down to the point where I hardly buy any new music now. The UBW is the only source of new music for me at the moment.

I have seen so many good acts in the UK release albums and then vanish because of lack of support, and also because their album may have failed to achieve a string of number 1 hit singles.

Its interesting to note Burn, that the massively influential acts you mention, bar Led Zeppelin are still out there selling out those huge venues, just not often in the UK.

I saw the Priest earlier this year in Glasgow, and they were awesome. I also saw Rush last year at the same venue. But the lack of support that these acts got meant that their tours of the UK were very limited, and I can only put that down to a lack of popular press interest. Rush themselves have said that they would have liked to have come to the UK earlier, but couldnt because they didnt have the promotional support over here. They eventially only managed to tour because they received sponsorship from the Classic Rock magazine, and lo and behold, the tour was a sell out.

Look at the massive world tour that Priest are currently playing, with the tours mainly revolving around Europe and America, where there are healthy musc scenes.

The audiences are there in the UK, but the interest in catering for those audiences is not.

NME sucks ass!

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:02 am

I have nearly lost all faith in metal these days. It aint what it use to be. Crying or Very sad

BRING BACK THRASH!!!!!!!!!!!
WE NEED A NEW METALLICA!!!!!

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:47 am

simply because theese "popular" bands of yours are sellable there music is sellable so they sell it and when something sells like any half decent movie sequals will arise but not more from them (the popular artist) they need something to fill the years that it will take the band to spew out more crap so what do they do? Find someone who sounds exactly the same only slightly better looking so they can sell it until the people get bored

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:13 am

Could be worse though....you every heard French radio? Apart from some outstanding HipHop, you really wouldn't want to be a French Rock fan - Wink

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 5:28 am

i can vouch for that.

Ive spent a bit of time in Berlin, and they get a lot of european music channels, a lot of stuff is like euro disco stuff, and its very limited to europe only. You dont see a lot of it outside of the country, but then all countries probably have their own music cultures that are isolated from elsewhere.

There are rock and pop acts in France and such places that are massive in their own countries but not elsewhere, but then the UK and America are probably quite similar.

If you have ever seen a programme called Eurotrash in the UK, people will know what I mean. I have seen programmes about huge international stars from France who are big in places like South America and their home countries, but have probably never been heard of in the UK.

But on the other hand, there are lots of american and british acts that are quite popular in these countries also.

Berlin and probably Germany as a whole have got a really healthy metal scene. Check out Rammstein, who are one of the few German language bands who have made it big outside their own country. I am also into Alec Empire, who is from Berlin. But there is a really big metal scene from Europe that is almost unheard of in the UK.

I have also found the music shops to be pretty impressive in Berlin compared to what I have found at home.

At the end of the day, its what you like I suppose that counts.

But its high time that the UK music industry opened itself up a little more. We could do with some dedicated rock radio stations rather than the controlled playlisted ones that we have. Radio DJ`s in the main stations could do with a little more freedom to play what they want rather than being forced to play what they are told, probably because they are receiving backhanders from the major labels to push acts that would probably not get anywhere without that backing.

McFly anyone? They make me want to throw up. The industry doesnt make any attempt to even hide the fact that they are operating as an assembly line. The worst thing is that there are probably some talenterd people out there who get stifled by the inability to break out of the corporate restraints they are put under.

There are also a lot of people out there who would probably never have gotten where they are without the professional teams of songwriters, stylists etc who think they know what we want.

Pop idol sucks ass big time.

And another thing, anyone seen that Rockstar: INXS programme?

It seems to me that INXS have thrown any credibility they had right out of the window with this embarassing search for a replacement for Michael Hutchence, who at the end of the day, was INXS. What are they gonna do? Score a hit single (Maybe) and then go out on the greatest hits circuit. They should retire gracefully, or maybe drop the INXS name. They seem to reside within a fairytale land at the moment, and whats with Dave Navarro on the programme, sitting there in feather boas and acres of makeup? He is another talented musician who was once in an ok band who seems to be more interested in image nowadays rather than writing good music.

and lets not talk about Ozzy. Poor guy. Him and his wife have strung Black Sabbath on for so long now its getting outrageous. He drags them out for a tour every so often, but there is still no sign of any new music. They should get Ronnie Dio back, at least he is still out there making new material.

God this is turning into a rant, I better stop now.

Evil or Very Mad

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:45 pm

Dagon - by 'the Priest' are you referring to Judas Priest? I didn't know they were still around but if they are that kicks ass!
also - I've never heard of Kaiser Chiefs but from what i hear thats probably a good thing as they don't sound all that inspiring.

Anyway - i'm not going to start ranting like i feel like doing after reading this thread, but i will post this:
There is a Sydney band called COG that are very different and really f*&$ing good.
They do an awesome cover of Open It Up too.

but also - if you want something a little different check out:
http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/bands/1741/

One last thing i'll say is that for all the bands i go and see live, yeah there are song shit ones that can't pull off a good live act.
But its for the ones that can that makes it awesome to be a musician.
That feeling you get to walk out of a gig/concert bubbling over with inspiration and busting to get home and pick up a guitar and compose something.
that feeling makes it awsome to be a musician.
Then there's acts like TOOL that give you that feeling as you walk out "why do i even bother? - i'll never be able to do THAT!"

-Seneki

ubw newbie Joined: Sep 11, 2005 Posts: 10

for me the answer is digital recording

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:24 pm

Yeah Seneki, I mean Judas Priest, and it does kick ass, and so do they live.

And I wouldnt worry about being as great as any other act, its finding your own sound that matters. Tool are awesome and very inspirational, but there is only one tool.

Find your sound, be original, thats the best way to look at it.

I have never really seen the point of bands that just lok back at old stuff and try to emulate it, you just end up with stagnant music movements such as Britplop.

I will have to check out your link sometime, but its too late now for me to be blasting out tunes, my neighbours would kill me!

Check you later.

Very Happy

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:59 pm

wow ! you got quite a forum going here . . . i don't know where to begin so I won't say much except to say that here in the US a lot of radio stations are going to this computerized play list of classic rock, the DJ's have no say what so ever in the musical choices to play, which is totally effed. .I don't even listen to the radio anymore, this place is way better!!! you get a lot of raw stuff as well as polished stuff, but if you seek you will find something cool, . . absolutely!! How about you give a listen to my music . . i've been told many times that it I'm onto something, my own direction . . .of course I have my influences, but I always played my own stuff so as to never get swallowed up in copying others. It's electric guitar on the mellow spacey side. . . . they're rough old tracks that were recorded for copyright purposes . . . but, there's some quality there . . .Give a listen man, I'm sure there's something you'll like. Try the instumentals first.

Peace,
Erick

http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/bands/5010/

ps: did you ever check out Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush, they just did a tour in the uk. they play their asses off . . 3 plus hours of hard heavy raw energy . . . they're real good live man!

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