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Bannabein
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| Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:11 am |
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Guitarman152
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| Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:51 am |
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interesting video, but my question would be, if that wasn't a large aircraft and it was indeed a missle, then what happened to the american airlines flight 77 and all the people aboard? although it does create curiousity when there are no noticeable huge airplane parts strewn about . . hmmm . . . 
with this current administration I wouldn't put anything out of the realm of possibilities. . . . .  |
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Bannabein
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Guitarman152
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| Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:54 pm |
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as an american, I believe there's some kind of cover-up involving 9/11,
the fbi knew about those guys taking flying lessons and there are just too many coincidences to blame it on incompetence. Bush may single handedly be responsible for the up and coming downfall of america, we've lost our respect around the world because of him and his cronies.
I better stop now before I go on a long rant about that stupid f@$^%ing assh@#e.....    
Peace,
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Bannabein
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:43 pm |
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I don't really think Bush (Jr.) is to blame, cause he's just a puppet, a pathetic worthless puppet.
He is also too stupid to plan such a large conspiracy as 9/11, even too stupid to be a secretary for the people who planned it, too stupid to even bring them coffee, in short: too stupid to have any part of it.
For all I know, that video I posted earlier (the one were Bush lies about seeing things on TV) may not even be a lie. I wouldn't be surprised if Bush actually believes what he saies. I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA fooled him into thinking that he watched the first plane on national TV, when in fact it was CIA "local TV" made to fool the stupid president.
I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA gave up trying to make the president a part of such awfull conspiracies. You all know what happened to J.F.K. Deep down you all know that he was murdered by people within your own government and the FBI. Why? My guess is that he didn't want to be a part of "the original 9/11":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods (recomended to all Americans)
And maybe then the neo-con fascists in the White House, FBI and CIA realized that it was better just to fool the president, than trying to get him to join their evil deeds. And then, what is more suitable than a dumb-ass president like Geroge W. Bush?
In fact, I think Bush's stupidity is THE reason why he is the president of the United States. Cause that it exactly what those other f*cking neo-con asshole-conspirators in the White House needed. People like Dick Cheney. Seriously, I think you americans should start worrying a bit more about people like Dick Cheney and Carl Rove and less about you puppet president.
They needed a president who saies stuff like this:
http://www.willthomas.net/911/Bush/Bush-Never-Stops-Thinking.htm
cause then people will never believe that it was all intentional. Then people will buy the whole "oh, we were too stupid to prevent anything"-BULLSHIT. That's right, just look at the president! Look how stupid he is, almost like a monkey. No wonder people are buying all that crap about the whole 9/11 being nothing but "simultaneous errors in intelligence".
President Bush Jr.'s role is to be the stupid president that everyone can blame. Cause then people forget those who really pull the strings.
Notice Rumsfeld on the video I postet. Notice how he doesn't even react a tiny bit when Bush starts going on his stupidity-rant. It's like it's all planned! I feel like I can sense him thinking "mmmmm...yezzzz....just like planned...just like foreseen...Master Cheney will be pleased..."
What do you think?
P.S.
I hope you Americans are aware of "Operaion Northwoods" and the circumstances around it. I really hope it is a part of your national awareness and that you will not keep giving in to such tyranny for much longer. |
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Guitarman152
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:01 pm |
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ok . . . let me take a breath oooo0000000aaaahhhhhh. . .
Like I said in my other reply Bush and his cronies, cronies being Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz etc..... I don't believe he planned it or any of them planned it, but they allowed it to happen.....of course Bush is a dumb ass and is an unknowing puppet. . . do you know how he became popular? Do you remember when he was governor of texas? he put the first woman to death in over 100 years if I'm not mistaken, and I'll never forget his press conference when he refused to parden her, it was very strange especially him being a christian and her becoming one and they had this huge press conf. and rallys and huge media attendtion. The first thing I thought when this was going on was that he was gonna run for president, I just got a vibe of him being groomed for it. Hell man, he didn't even win the fuckin election, remember florida? the supreme court gave him the job, but he gets voted in the 2nd time . . . !!!
At least congress is finally questioning the reasons we went into iraq, maybe there's hope yet.
there seems to be this sheep syndrome thing going on in the western world. . . perceptions and dog and pony shows . . .oooyyy
I better stop before I have an aneurism . . . 
ps: I'm afraid to ask BUT . . what is operation northwoods? |
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Bannabein
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:10 pm |
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Yep, the Florida election was....different.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-american or anything. I just think it's a bit scary, when you think about the whole US-Iran-Syria-Kina atomic weapon build-up. Honestly it seems like the US are doing all they can to get the UN and the EU on their side in in war with Iran and Syria. Wonder what China would do if their partner in oil, Iran, got bombed by some western alliance.
And having read George Orwell's "1984" lately, I'm getting a bad feeling from the whole "war on terror" and how new laws that take away your freedoms are being proposed all over the western world. I'm sure you know of Patriot Act, for instance. There is something scetchy to the whole thing, and it might have to do with securing oil-reserves for the near future and getting people to support the wars that are necessary to do it.
"Operation Northwoods" is a declassified document from March 1962 (not so long before the J.F.K. murder, in other words) in which the FBI is conspiring to carry out fake terror-attacks on American soil and blame it on the communists, in order to persuade the American public into supporting an invasion of Cuba. The whole document is basicly about how they can persuade the american people into war mongering. I quote (CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS??!!!!):
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Hijacking attempts against civil air and surface craft
should appear to continue as harassing measures condoned by the
government of Cuba. Concurrently, genuine defections of Cuban
civil and military air and surface craft should be encouraged.
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It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate
convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down
a chartered civil airliner enroute from the United States to
Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela. The destination would
be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba.
The passengers could be a group of college students off on a
holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to
support chartering a non-scheduled flight.
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It gets worse...they've even planned this into detail (which shows how much effort they actually took into it):
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An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and
numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered
aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the
Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be
subsituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be
loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under
carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered
aircraft would be converted to a drone.
Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual
aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of
Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying
aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly
into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will
have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the
aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft
meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When
over Cuba the drone will being transmitting on the inter-
national distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he
is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission
will be interrupted by the destruction of aircraft which will
be triggered by radio signal. This will allow IACO radio
stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the US what
has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to
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You can get the whole document (only 15 pages) from National Security Archive.
Here is the link: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/
Very very disturbing reading in deed. Yaaarg, I get chills down my back when I think about it.
And here is what Wikipedia have to say about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Oh my, look at this
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casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation |
So all I'm saying is that maybe there should have been a new investigation (one not carried out by the government) on 9/11. |
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