A Certain Measure of Nothing

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:21 am

Yo what's happenin? I'm new here and I thought a good place to start would be to let everyone hear a track that my band is working on right now. It's called Yesterday, and we haven't recorded the vocals yet due to confusion about mic/soundcard impedance and stuff. We're saving for an SM58/SM86 and a preamp from M-Audio as well. Hopefully when we get those items in we can put the finishing touches on the track.

Listen to the track here:
A Certain Measure of Nothing - Yesterday

Feedback is appreciated always. Hey, do you think a guitar solo would improve this track at all? Thanks for listening Smile

-Moresco

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:25 am

ok downloading it now. i will write back. i am not a big metal/hardcore expert though.

cheers Cool

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:11 am

well here we go mate. firstly the guitar part for example at 0:41 seemed to be ruining the scale in my opinion.

Your kicks can use a little more reverb i think, it sounds so dry.

1:29 part great. yeah the distortions come around 1:50 but they are too low i think. the drums and the distorted guitars sound too irrelevant, like they are coming from seperate tracks. guitars are too deep if u know what i mean. track also clips in some places.

the track can use a solo i think.

overall, diggin this tune for sure but it needs some heavy mastering in my opinion. a gentle eq for the master channel and a hard compressor can make this one sound more tight and as a result far better.

regards.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 2:16 am

Yup you're right about the mixing not being the greatest, but it's pretty good I think for a demo.

About clipping: I don't think it's clipping that you're hearing. What you're probably hearing is that crappy bass popping sound, don't have a bass guitarist so I sampled the bass....I won't bother with it until a real human comes along to play bass heh. I know that I hate the sound of that bass but I just haven't got anything else.

More reverb on the kickdrum? I'll try that out.

At 0:41...you don't like that chord? I think it works good like that. My friend Nathan said the same thing when he heard it, as if it was out of key or out of tune..it's not. *shrug* Smile

thanks for the listen man!

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 5:41 am

no problems mate it was a good song to listen. and i have a humble suggestion for ya, why not upload your track to the ubw? cause your mp3 is huge and you will get few listens with a direct download.

I say upload it here and create a lo-fi version and it will get more feedback and more listens.

cheers Wink

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 4:14 pm

Sounds like a good idea, I'll try to get that done today sometime. I have a question though for you, and hopefully you can help me out. How do I raise the volume of the drums and the guitars...without clipping? I tried adding a compressor to the master track, and then I tried adding it instead to several individual tracks....and then I tweaked like mad. I'm not cut out for this, it just keeps cutting the volume out for me. What I'm saying is, no matter what I do, I can't seem to end up with a full sound. Any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong here?

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 4:31 pm

okay every compressor has some kinda "gain" wheel somewhere around it. this gain thingy will increase your volume.

so that is you tweak the threshold until it gets to work, adjust ratio (you may want to keep a low ratio if u would like to stay on the unelectronic side of the music Cool

) and then tweak the gain up as u want, it will hopefully prevent clips and give you a tight lovely mix.

you will usually need several compressors for each tracks and one or two seperate for the master track. if u are using a software lucky you, if u are a hardware guy, this will cost a hell of a money.

each instrument benefits from different compressor settings, and for the master track -you know it is called mastering- it is a big another tale. just experience can help ya so feel free to try it. and try it a million times more mate. Cool

ah and i am not a superior masterer or anything, i am just trying to improve myself.

hope this helps mate Cool

cheers.

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:27 am

Well I think it's improved now, I'll check it again in the morning and see if I still like it. Haha. So what is the rule about where the db can be on the final master? Cuz I think this sounds great now, but it's gotta be over 0db...is that ok? I swear I thought I read that you should never be over 0db, but when I mixed that way it came out VERY quiet. Now Fruityloops swears I'm in the red but does that matter? The final mix sounds very full and strong. So confusing...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:56 am

well this 0db thingy is the universal rule mate. i think you should also obey it. your mix can sound nice and silent on your system but you never know what will happen on something else.

and after all this is digital music, no harms can come from increasing or decreasing it's volume.

i say you make it less than 0db and let the people increase their winamp's volume while listening to your song if they want to.

cheers. Cool

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