UBW Compilation CD?

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:50 am

Hiya,

I was just thinking that a great way for a number of people to get some more exposure would be to produce an 'Unsigned Band Web Compilation'.

If everyone on the disc had a link on their own web-page to the disk and to UBW it would (hopefully) increase the audience. It could also have a small blurb about each act and how to get in touch with them maybe.

It wouldn't cost anything to produce if done through something like cdme.tk or cdbaby maybe.

Anyway, there are lots of other things that would need to be discussed but does anyone think something like this is a good idea?

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 6:01 pm

Actually i think that would be a great idea tuttle.. the more people know about this the better! Great marketing idea.. let me know if its a go!

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:54 pm

Tuttle,

I've actually been thinking of doing this for awhile, but haven't really investigated the logistics involved. I'm interested in ANYTHING that helps promote Unsigned Band Web artists. Let me do some research and see if we can come up with a game plan.

Thanks for the excellent idea!!!

If anyone on the board has experience with this, please feel free to chime in with your feedback!!

Take care,
Ron

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:48 am

In many ways the easiest part is the cd itself.

Where it would get tricky would be with issues around copyright, revenue-sharing, distribution.

One option I'd be happy with personally is to see all the revenue/profits from this compilation put directly back into the Unsigned Band Web site and into promotion etc. As long as the artists on the disc got say 5-10 copies for ziltch.

A copy of the CD would need to go to some of the cool magazines like "Careless Talk Costs Lives" & "PlanB" (both UK-based). But should that be up to the artists?

Umm, sorry I'm just typing this off the top of my head (trying to avoid turning to the work I'm being paid to sit here and do Smile

)

Maybe a small label would take it on? Or at least take on distribution for a cut?

Sorry will sign off now.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:17 am

yeah! great idea. I'd be fine with making no profit on my part. everything going straight into UBW sounds good to me. exposure is exposure.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:28 am

I would feel weird making money from this kind of project....

From an artist perspective, I understand that exposure is more important than making a few dollars off of something like this.

My feeling is, I could burn the CD's, maybe someone here has a solution for printing that's free or ultracheap.

And....we could just give these away.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:31 am

the cheapest way still be cafepress.com or cd-me....they take a % on sells but on the other hand you'll have nothing to invest except sending them the master and covers.

I agree that money back to UBW will permit Ubw to advertise, and so at list give more exposure to the artists and so give them (us) more facilities to sell their/our own Cd!

It looks like a good deal!

just my though

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:32 am

you might need to sell them even if only to cover the cost of promoting it, distributing it, giving an incentive for record shops to stock. There would be the cost of sending copies to local radios or magazines for review for example.

But, free is good too.

any ideas how it would work re distribution etc.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:39 am

Just a little though

Compilations Cd are made by "genre"....a Non specific genre compilation may be hard to sell....

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:30 am

but you also get compilations by certain labels that can be quite broad as well as compilations that come with music mags which are sometimes really diverse.

Personally, I'd rather a disc that was eclectic, because I don't listen to just one type of music and it's a way to turn me on to new things. I'd never by a electronica compilation cd but have been introduced to some through various samplers etc.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:19 pm

What can I do to help?

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:15 pm

Great comments everyone...

I think....

.....it needs to be multiple genre now (if this is successful and we continue to grow we could go with a specific genre)

.....it needs to be "free" and designed as a sampler, not a "for sale in the record store" CD. I would need to investigate further who to send it to, but radio stations, record labels, and anyone who will listen are a few thoughts that come to mind

.....printing is my biggest concern, I can run the initial CD's myself, but they need to be printed, along with an insert

.....we would probably need some artwork to go along with it? Amazon or anyone else feel up to designing some artwork??

Let's keep the discussion going. There are obviously some big questions to answer, but I think if we hash it out, we'll come up with something that helps promote the music and get's everyone more exposure!!

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:15 pm

argh....sorry but my english is so approx and I can't explain more than the few words I know

concerning "genres" : it is a fatc that there's "multi-genres" compilations made by radio, press etc....but this kind of compilations are made by people that already have a customer basis...just a though.
I prefer a non sub genre compilation too...but a compilation without customers is just a nice dream...

Cafepress make everything : print on cover and cd, insert book...you'll just have to send .jpg files and it do not cost anything

and yes you/we need a cover designer....if nobody can do it I know a good one and can ask him to help for free

we must all keep in mind that there's a big difference between "artists wishes" and "what ppl may buy" and that there is a big difference enters selling something when you're already well known ( as a newspaper or a radio) and selling something that you hope that gives ya more exposure and help ya to be known (is it right in english?)

maybe i'm too perverted by my job but I just had an expeiment : they sell 65 cd's....what an exposure!!!!!

peace and take care

alek

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:16 pm

can you tell us more about the expriement selling 65 cd's? I didn't understand that.

I agree with you on the rest of your statements. My hope is that as the UBW grows our own customer base will be large enough for such a project to be successful.

I am in the process of moving over this weekend, so my access to internet will be limited. If I can't comment over the next few days, that's the reason.

Thanks to everyone for the interest and for the great feedback thus far...

Ron

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:24 am

Hi Ron

the Cd compilation is called "timeless reverb" by Icephixia Productions.

But Icephixia Prods don't have any customer base even if they took artists from Soundclick which have a huge customer base, and didn't really think on ads, radio ads , etc. ( and Mastering quality was crap)

At least all artists decide to get "off" and the Cd was putted off of Cafepress.

Now this compil has been remastered, re-recorded, etc by DSR ( Directsoundradio) which get much more exposure on his own than Icephixia prod. Cuz Icephixia may have thought that people who like "x" artist would buy the Cd. But in fact people don't buy a whole compilation for only one "x" artist track on it.

I know this is not the same problem than a UBW CD, but some many differents little points have to be thought.

I think that you're right when ya say that as UBW grows the customer base grows....but it'd have to becamle very very big to hope that UBWers would be enough to make that project succefull. Or UBW has to be very know off site.

If ya want to sell more than just a litlle , the only way to release and succeed with a non genre cd is to be already well known ( as music press or radio) and to have a huge base of "customers" (a little bit differents than "members"....even If members can buy to support , they don't really do it more than once...)

the only way to release and succeed with a "sub genre" cd is to know where are the customers of this kind of stuff. ( normal ratio for return ( back?) is around 4%....)

On the other hand as it cost nothing except mastering, burning the master and mail it to cafepress each Cd sold is One more than nothing.

(I hope it's right in english and... this is just my though....but i havn't enough words to moderate what I mean.)

So what it is the first point? it's UBW! hehe Wink

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