New Project...Need to know where I'm going wrong-hip-hop

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:07 am

Well 3-R-D is up and posted.
Need a good, hard-as-nails review on this guys and girls.
It's the first time I've done stuff in this genre, so blast me shreads, I really wanna learn.
Thanks.

The link is at the bottom of the sig.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:21 am

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Went to your webpage (second link) and listened to Ultimate Sin

Here goes
Hear hints of Stan - m&m, I like backing track - got some nice mix in it -subtle-- hints of gangster paradise in strings, over all though - (here's the negative shit!) not getting the 'message' your putting out . Chorus not feelling boosted enough to feel like chorus (maybe track up vocals with wierd shit underneath - I use voice of an old man and young child mixed in above and below to make it sound strange) or stick electric in behind drawing attention to vocal. With rap I think that at least every 4 lines needs to be a real lyrical hook to draw on which all adds up to the chorus making more sense - could just be the same word or the some random cliche 'real world observation' - who knows! (that make sense to anyone but me?) . Over all track sounds real (ie.not fake) and general structure and vibe is really sound. Just needs that sense of tribal 'I really really give a shit about this and don't f**k with me' boosted to grab me a bit more.

7/10

GOOD WORK!
(P.S. Nobody's opinion is more important than your own so f**k me and anyone who tries to critic you- it's your song- your world!)
Wink

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:23 am

Hi Brooksy

Just checked 3-R-D now......Grrrrrrr "lo-fi" only........
General feeling is good. Good first attempt...

Beats are ok even if they are very simple and might have some more variations
the main vocals level is too high , to "upfront"....comparing to the "music " level
Around 0'57 backing vocals are too low this time.....
It sounds more as "spoken" than rapped....is it just me?

But all in all this track has a good potential with a better mix. The way you used guitar sounds is great and this track has a moody atmosphere really enjoyable!

Keep up the good work

peace

alek Cool

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:31 am

Thanks guys.
Yeah it needs remixing over. Just needed to know where the heck I was going wrong...
Thanks again, your comments where great.

ubw newbie Joined: Oct 17, 2004 Location: CORK Posts: 45

Hey brooksy
I'm no expert on that type of music but I have to say it sounds like the real thing to me.

Well done, if thats your first effort I think we will be hearing more from you in this genre.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:29 pm

Geee...thanks Rogue..that's means a lot...thanks.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:26 pm

hmm lo-fi makes it a bit hard but, sounds a good one to me. dunno, i will second alek, this is more like spoken. oh and i would eq the vox a little for a better fit in the mix.

but overall, good stuff, you got a strong sound here, stick at it

peace.

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:00 pm

Brooksey, hey - this isn't bad. Very Happy

Like the big pipe chimes you have in there. the beat is cool and the underlying bass line has some tension that helps build the tune. I have extremely limited HipHop exposure, but I hear some Eminem in there. cool tune.

smili

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:28 pm

Some hip hop tricks to keep in mind:

1) if you are using a shitty mic, then throw some type of cloth over it..something light like a pillow case...it will reduce a lot of that "echo". the high end reverb

2) layer your voice at the end of every phrase. listen to some hip hop tracks...here how groups "harmonize" on important words...try this out. All you do is create another track for vocals..then cut out the word/words you want to harmoniz. Drop the sample rate down a bit, and then line them up..piece of cake. Or..you could just re sing another vocal track, only rapping the key phrases. It will make your lyrics come and It will give your track more of an overall "head nod"

3) encode and upload a high fi version Razz

Sounds really good though...i have a bunch of beats i made back in the day if you are interested.

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 1:55 am

Cheers U4eA.

Never thought about the cloth over the mic, nice one, thanks.

The layering was a problem, I didn't have a good enough Editor to layer extra tracks, should have a new one arriving soon which has a 16-24 track editor built in so it shouldn't be any problem at all.

And sure I'm interested in the beats...Always interested.

Thanks for the comments, man, always appreciated.

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:23 am

I'm not a hiphop expert but this sounds pretty cool to me.

Agree with some of the other comments (i.e that chorus needs to be boosted and maybe beats need to be a bit more varied) but jeez, for a first attempt it's really bloody good.

tuttle

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:29 am

Thanks tuttle.

I was using free beats from soundclick, infact got a stash of 'em. They're only meant for demos.

So I'm gonna wait for all me new software to arrive then I'm gonna make me own stuff.

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:24 pm

End of the day it's the words that make it. Don't think of it as hip hop - poetry to a beat is all. It's a genre that scares the crap out of me for that reason. No guitar to hide behind - Just make sure what you're saying does more than just rhyme - Respect for doing it and keep on keepin on! Wink

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:08 am

Yo, Soulfish, dude....right as always. Thanks for checking it out. Keep on rockin'....failin' that...keep on drinkin' till y' start rockin'

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